Why do Subversion Thrigh Wing? RE: [wingide-users] Subversionagain

[Vania Smrkovski]

" One thing I like about Wing is that it doesn't assume I'm stupid,
but it does assume I'm lazy. Which, of course, I am. :)"

And that's really my point.  The current state of integration between Wing
and Subversion works.  There's no two ways about it.  And developers have to
have some level of intelligence, or the project has other risks.

But developers are also very stubborn, and don't tell me you haven't found
the same to be true.  The easier you make things for developers, the more
likely they will be to adapt their processes to yours.  The minute a
developer thinks "Yeah, that's nice and all, but I don't have time to do
this crap", you've lost him as a team player.  It's stupid, but it's true.

I found it very true when VS2005 had so much tigher integration with VSS.  I
know VSS isn't Subversion, and I know a lot of the habits you have to learn
for VSS just don't matter so much with Subversion.  And I'm looking forward
to finding out how much that's true.  But as far as Visual Studio 2005 is
concerned, when we started using it and it was so much more integrated with
VSS (by even creating file dialogs with a view onto VSS) we found projects
were better managed all around, fewer short cuts, etc.

So that's it.  What's currently there is nice.  Command-line jockeys can
make use of it.  But when the Wing guys told me of the next steps they plan
for integration, I thought Cool!  It'll make it that much more powerful.

And so sayeth Forrest: That's all I got to say about that.

V


On 7/31/06, Ken Kinder <kkinder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/31/06, Vania Smrkovski <vania at pandorasdream.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not saying you can do a great job with a project by not adding that
> > integration.  But the whole point of version control, be it CVS,
> Subversion
> > or Visual Source Safe, is that some of the team members are less careful
> > than others, and the system is there to protect the project from harm.
> >
>
> True, although many of the problems that could come up in Wing (like
> not updating files not in your project) could come about anyway -- for
> example by running update in a subdir, not the root dir.
>
> Ultimately I think the developers have to have some intelligence about
> it. One thing I like about Wing is that it doesn't assume I'm stupid,
> but it does assume I'm lazy. Which, of course, I am. :)
>
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