[wingide-users] First impressions with 2.1
danny.bloemendaal at informaat.nl
Wed Feb 22 09:45:12 EST 2006
Here are some of my first impressions
I really miss some kind of a marker in the code window. Something
like a flag icon in the side line.
I want a way to jump through all the bookmarks (goto next bookmark).
I'm still looking for a way to move to the previous auto-bookmark
using the keyboard. (Long long standing request). I tried to find it
in the help but that was no success, see below.
Show detail in stack:
Excellent. Finally, it's back :-)
Eh.. please please implement tooltips while debugging. This would
increase the user experience so much
Dual monitor support:
I'm not working on a windows machine anymore but are you guys aware
that there are also problems on mac os regarding this? If I start
Wing on my powerbook and then attach a second display, drag Wing to
it and then open a dialog like file-open, that dialog is displayed on
the wrong screen and heavily distorted in size.
Also, in the other way. If I open Wing on the second monitor, then
close it, detach the monitor and open Wing again, I have a Wing
window that is 1" wide.
Can you please make dialogues that are supposed to be modal really
modal? When the file=open dialog or config dialog is showed, you can
still click on the main window causing you to move the dialog behind
I thought you guys would look into the extremely poor font support on
the mac. It still has these horrible fonts. Would be nice :-)
I still cannot search in the help docs in WinG.I guess I have to
refer to the pdf?
Split editor mode:
Each split has an active tab. Can you change something in the active
tab of a 'split area' that doesn't have to focus? Grayed out in some
way? (but still recognizable as selected). I have found myself
clicking on the start button while the cursor was in the wrong split.
And while looking at the entire window, it isn't visually clear which
one is active. So by only making the active tab in the active split
blue (in the default skin) and not the rest would make this a lot
GTK/X11/Whatever is very slow on the mac. But I do like some of the
skins and as long as you don't drag any of the pane dividers, it is
acceptable. However, if you resize a pane and you move you mouse away
(after having released the button) while the window is still being
updated, the slider still follows the mouse (eventhough the button is
not down anymore). That is extremely annoying because many times, the
pane suddenly is extremely wide or small (coz the mouse is already on
the other side of the window). You have to make absolutely sure that
the drag operation is finished before moving the mouse again. I
assume this is a limitation of the environment so my suggestion is to
make a drag-divider that doesn't update the while dragging. Make it
so that it just shows a moving divider (a gray line or something) and
only when you release the mouse button, it updates the window.
Move focus, shift-f1:
What does it do? or should do? I have a split window and I see the
focus move from the left split to the right. Doing it again moves the
focus to the little search box in the toolbar. But from there it
stays there. Shift-f1 doesn't do anything anymore.
In the prefs, (GlossyP, Luxi Sans 11 as disp font), source analysis,
advanced, the scraping helper snippets table displays unreadable fonts.
But I can't get it to work ;-). Tried everything and all I get is a:
Executing: status status -v tests/testIssueCreation.py
wing.py: Fatal IO error 9 (Bad file descriptor) on X server :0.0.
It works from the command line though.
Still a nightmare!! This should really be an easy fix but right now
WinG s..ks when you have many open files. The black arrows at the
beginning and end of the tab=bar should scroll the tab-bar instead of
moving the focus to the next tab. Even better would be to make the
arrow a submenu, when you click on it, it shows a list of the tabs
outside the view so you can quickly jump to that tab (including the
tabs hidden on the other side of the bar!). I don't even dare to
mention tab ordering by drag and drop ;-) Hehe.
Please remember the state of the collapsed and expanded region after
saving/closing the documents. A long standing request.
*I'm currently debugging Plone unittests which is painstakingly slow
from within Wing. When I do it from the commandline it is also not
very fast but still much faster than from within Wing. During the
tests, the entire zope environment is launched and results are
written to the debug i/o. However, while running, Wing almost freezes
and hardly responds anymore to mouse events (was also like this in
2.0). Can something be done about this?
*I'm in a split-screen and the focus in the left area, I press start
and the debugger starts running. In the right area I have another
python document open and create a breakpoint there. Then, when the
breakpoint is reached, Wing stops but shows the code with the
breakpoint in the left area while it is already showing in the right
pane. It would be cool to quickly check if by any chance, the file is
already showing in another pane and then use that one. It's not
without purpose that I have the splits ;-)
I thought you guys would add icons in the tree to make it's content
more recognisable. It's still on my wish list ;-)
I think searching has been improved but I need some more time with
it. There is a glitch with the dropdown button just behind the Search
input field inside the search tool. You mix up two different things.
So, either the field is a dropdown box and pressing the button drops
it down or it is a popupmenu. It behaves like both, it has menu items
(like expanded text area (why not make the field by itself sizable?))
but also recent search items. In any case, the menu/list disapears if
you don't keep the button pressed. That should not be the case. Also,
on my 1600x1200 display with Wing almost full screen, the input field
is as wide as the total windows size (too long if you ask me) and the
menu is also the same with. So you press the button which is entirely
on the right side of the window and you have to look for the menu
item on the entire left side of the screen. That's not good in my
Another suggestion regarding this: why show that menu at all on the
right with additional search options like incremental, show replace
etc. I'd say, show them like Case sensitive, Whole words etc. That
makes it far more direct. Just tack what you want without having to
open submenus first.
Ok, that's it for now. Probably more later :-). As you can see, most
of the issues are usability issues and consern the user interface. I
think that that is a very important part and should be high priority
because that is what you experience the most while working with Wing.
Getting rid of many of these annoyances could improve my experience
with Wing significantly. It's not perfect yet but we're getting
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